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The Rainmaker Podcast
Stepping into leadership isn’t for the faint of heart. It's a gladiatorial arena, an unceasing battle against time, expectations, and the pressures of creating impact. For Marketers at every level, the leap from being a leader to becoming a Rainmaker – a master of self, team, role, and impact – often feels like an impossible task.
That’s where the Rainmaker Podcast comes in.
'Elevating Marketing Leaders' is not just a tagline – it's a mission. Each episode is filled with genuine, unscripted conversations with trailblazers from every corner of the business world.
These aren’t just marketers from big brands with huge budgets. These are the Marketing Leaders who have transcended the norm, overcoming obstacles and achieving the extraordinary. And inside, they’re sharing the hard-earned victories and the lessons from their struggles, giving you an insider's perspective on what it truly takes to become a Rainmaker.
We expose the conversations usually brushed under the rug and unmask game-changing strategies that are rarely discussed, like handling burnout, justifying the need for support, articulating ROI, managing 'drive-by' crises, and more.
Here you’ll find your safe space, a place where the pressures of time take a backseat, allowing you to focus on your career growth and well-being. Our goal is to inspire, providing you with the insights and tools to master your role, nurture your team, prioritize your well-being, and evolve into a career-advancing Rainmaker. Because that’s where innovation truly comes alive – at the intersection of principles, good practice, and diverse perspectives.
Are you ready to elevate, step into your fullest potential, and embrace the journey to becoming a Rainmaker?
Then join me each Wednesday for new episodes of the Rainmaker Podcast.
Let’s make it rain!
The Rainmaker Podcast
Consultant vs. Fractional vs. Agency: What Your Business Really Needs with Joe Grover
What’s the real difference between a consultant, an agency, and a fractional CMO and how do you know which one your business actually needs?
This week, Joe Grover joins me on the show for a deep dive into the evolving landscape of marketing leadership and the dynamics behind each of these roles.
In this episode, Joe breaks down why so many companies hire a CMO too early and how to assess the real gaps in your growth strategy. We also discuss what founders should consider before bringing in external support, explore the emotional side of leadership, and unpack the pros and pitfalls of fractional roles plus the critical importance of execution when strategy alone isn’t enough.
If you’re a founder, executive, or marketer thinking about building a team, this conversation will challenge your assumptions and offer a grounded framework for what effective marketing leadership really looks like.
About Joe
Joe Grover is a Managing Partner and the CMO for Amplēo. Joe has a unique blend of marketing and finance experience that gives him a unique perspective and skillset in the c-suite. He is a fractional CMO and marketing advisor to several consumer, services, and software companies.
Before joining Amplēo in 2023, Joe was the CMO at Homie, a venture-backed real estate technology company. He led local and corporate marketing teams across five states. Under his leadership, the company was included on the Deloitte Fast 500, Inc500, Utah Business Fast 50, MWCN 100, and won a Gold Addy for the best guerilla marketing campaign of the year in Phoenix, Arizona, and was honored as CXO of the year by Utah Business Magazine in 2021.
He was the president and CMO of Genesis Media, a New York City-based digital advertising software company. Before Genesis, Joe was the CMO and CEO of Altitude Digital, an ad tech startup in Denver, Colorado. Genesis Media and Altitude Digital merged in 2017.
Joe spent seven years at Mercato Partners, a top-performing venture capital firm in Salt Lake City, UT, where he supported investments in several fast-growing software and branded consumer companies including Skullcandy, Stance, Fusion-io, and Goal Zero.
Before Mercato Partners, Joe was the founder and CEO of a creative ad agency, where he led advertising and communication campaigns for Fortune 1,000 companies nationwide including consumer brands Comcast, T-Mobile, Zions Bank, and Sportsman’s Warehouse. Joe was involved in Junto Partners, an entrepreneurship incubator, and launched several startups over 24 months. He became the director of the program where he recruited, trained, and mentored hundreds of entrepreneurs.
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